What's up everyone it's Mario and Sonic fanboy and today we're going to be doing a debunk on several claims that were made in Discord. So I was talking about Meta Knight's MU one of them being Zero VS Meta Knight on Discord and when someone said that Zero losing is unbased I replied that Zero also loses to Metal Sonic but due to misinformation Zero ended up winning. However several people have actually claimed that Zero actually still beats Metal Sonic and I've debated with them on Discord and it was pretty pathetic there claims. So that's what we're going to be doing today so without further a do let's get this debunk started.

Okay so in case you guys can't tell these people don't believe in Metal Sonic being around multiversal (which is the high-end) in AP and their excuse for that is because Metal's fight against Super Sonic happened before 06 this is wrong for many reasons as while it has been awhile since Metal used Metal Overlord he should still be far stronger than he was in Sonic Heroes and the fact that they still think Metal Sonic in his strongest form is weaker is just pathetic. But for arguments sake let's go off by their logic. Sonic defeated a foe named Emerl who can absorb the energy from Chaos Emeralds which can be used to destroy stars as the Space Colony ARK's Cannon is stated to pierce through stars

On top of that Emerl absorbed energy from the Final Egg Blaster which is solar system level at best and Sonic best him in his BASE FORM this means as Super Sonic he should be MUCH stronger than before oh and by the way Sonic Battle came out BEFORE Sonic Heroes

So regardless the of their logic Metal Sonic and especially Metal Overlord is already far stronger than Zero. So the claims stated are just bullshit.

Another claim made by these guys is that Sonic's speed is now 18c (which is 18 times the speed of light). And yes you read right. They said that Sonic is 18c which is ridiculous. So let's debunk this shall we? In the Sonic CD Japanese manual it's stated that for Sonic to travel through time with the Time Plate he would need to move at the speed of light. While this does require the time plate to do this but in later games like Sonic Unleashed, Sonic has shown to be faster than that. And I have proof whenever Sonic uses the Light Speed Dash it's calculated at 385 SPD

And Sonic's highest recorded speed is 4399 SPD.

By dividing both of them would make Sonic 11 times faster than the Light Speed Dash putting him at 11 times faster than light but again that's just a calculated speed. Sonic's speed is likely even faster than that if we take the highest results in speed

This makes Sonic's speed calculated at 70,157 times faster than the speed of light or if we divide 70,157 by 385 that makes Sonic 182 times faster than light. Either way that's far faster than what Sonic's speed was claimed to be. And don't get my started on the time he caught up to a Cyan Wisp, Sonic himself said that that it's almost as fast as him.

At this point Sonic should be much faster than he was in Unleashed. At one point Death Battle said that the Wisp top speed is around Mach 209. When the Wisps should be much faster than that as they can teleport planets across galaxies and here's how. Okay so you know how the calculated Sonic moving at 260,664 times the speed of sound.

Considering we've calculated Sonic to be much faster than light we can apply this logic and say that Sonic is 260,664 times faster than light and do the same thing with the Wisp and put them at 209 times faster than light and if you multiple all that up Sonic should be 54,478,776 times faster than light. We honestly don't need to go over Super Sonic cause I think you guys should get it by now but in case you need the short version Super Sonic is 7,068,751,428. Zero's top calculations from what I've seen are 2,056,384 times the speed of light which aren't even close to the calculations I've mentioned. Meaning that Metal Sonic is faster than Zero even in his base form so they just severely downplayed Sonic's speed.

And finally the last things debunked is his copy abilities. People say Zero wins just by spamming time immunity what they failed to realize that Metal can copy his abilities

And while yes he can copy some moves at a time Metal Sonic can evolve and Shapeshift his form to the point where in Sonic Heroes he can copy the abilities of multiple characters in all of their abilities at once so this is bull shit. So Metal Sonic should have no problem copying all of Zeros moves and techniques and abilities including Zero's ability to be immune to time stop so no Zero's haxes will not help him against an opponent who can literally copy his moves simply by scanning him.

And this that concludes the debunk. I didn't continue any further because I knew damn well what their claims are going to be and so knew it's just going to be flat out down play on Metal Sonic's side. You know it's very ironic how Drhippobanned said I don't know Zero and I said flat out wrong info about one character and he didn't say anything about Metal Sonic yet here he is giving out info about Metal Sonic and downplaying him and highballing Zero because if he truly knew Metal Sonic he would know that he is far stronger than Zero is and more haxed. But then again I shouldn't be surprised because these are the same people who believe that Sonic losing to Mario is accurate and believes 90% of what Death Battle says but that's it for the debunk thank you so much for reading and I'll se you all next time. Peace.