Discord vs. Bill Cipher
Interlude: Chaos, it's a force of nature that brings any and all parts of a planet or a whole universe or beyond, even such beings of great power are these two.
Discord
Discord, the Spirit of Chaos and Disharmony from Equestria from My Little Pony
Bill Cipher
Bill Cipher, the Demonic Triangle from the Nightmare Realm
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Discord
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Backstory: In the Magical land of Equestria is a place of ponies, Kirins, Buffalos, Griffons, Dragons, Changelings, and more though out the land of Equestria. But out of all of them there is a creature called the Draconequus and that one Draconequus is the Spirit of Chaos and Disharmony known as Discord. Discord was one of the villains of Equestria, so powerful that not even Alicorn princesses can beat them and the only way to beat him was the elements of harmony and turned him into stone for 1000 years until one day he was freed only to be stopped by Twilight Sparkle and her friends and then reformed by kind pegasus pony named Fluttershy and he used his magic as a force of good and became one of Equestria's most powerful protectors and then started having tea parties with Fluttershy, play Ogres & Oubliettes with Spike and Big Mac, going to the Galloping Gala, saving Equestria from Chrysalis, King Sombra, and Tirek, and causing some mischief around the land of ponies cause let's face it he's the Spirit of Chaos after all.
Background:
-Name Discord
-Age: 252 million years old(Stated to have friends in the era of dinosaurs)
-Species: Draconequus
-Religion: Jewish
-Alias: Grogar
-Responsible of 3 G1 villain returns
-Doesn't use contractions in his vocabulary
-His 1# Pegasister: Ilovekimpossiblealot
>That's the name of her Ponified self and channel
-The actor who portrays him used to play the role of Q from Star Trek
Powers and Abilities:
-Nigh-omnipotence
-Chaos manipulation
-Cunning
-Flight
-Reality-Warping (his most notable ability)
-Shapeshifting
-High-level intellect
-Voice changing
-Resurrection
-Hybrid physiology
-Reality restoration
-Size-shifting
-Gesturify
-Probability alteration/Logic manipulation
-Telekinesis
-Hypnotic magic
-Telepathy/Nigh-omniscience
-Fourth wall awareness
-Teleportation
-Creation
-Levitation
-Replication
-Animation
-Appendage generation
-Anatomical liberation
-Object possession
-Transmogrification
-Matter ingestion
-Portal creation
-Disease generation
-Pyrokinesis
-Smoke generation
-Color alteration
-Thought manifestation
-Enhanced strength
-Enhanced durability
-Enhanced hearing
-Weather magic
-Animal manipulation
-Daytime manipulation
-Gravity manipulation
-Time travel
-Bubble imprisonment
-Prehensile tail
-Cartoon physics/Toon Force
-Magic imbalance detection
-Immortality
-Clairvoyance
-Necromancy
-Energy blasts
-Petrification
-Mastery of trickery and manipulation
-Resistance to law, casuality and probability manipulation
-Grogar powers:
>Fear Empowerment
>Intimidation
>Longevity
>Magic
*Monster Creation
*Clairvoyance
*Teleportation
*Necromancy
*Telekinesis
*Energy Blasts
Feats(Strength and Durability):
-Defeated Celestia and Luna without breaking a sweat
>Sun in Equestia is the same size as our sun and so the same would be said about Equatria's moon and our moon
-Way more powerful than King Sombra, Shining Armor, Pony of Shadows, The Dazzlings, Tirek in his 3rd form, Cozy glow, Storm King, and Queen Chrysalis
-More powerful than the 5 Alicorn Princesses
-Stated to have the power to warp the cosmos and reality no problem
-Casually uprooted a tree
-Can move the sun and moon
-A small bit of his magic was enough to get Tirek to his second form
-Scales to the Elements of Harmony, Daybreaker, Pony of Shadows, and Nightmare Moon
-Stronger than the Mane 6, Pillars of Equestria of old, New Mane 6, Mean 6, Humane 7, and the Mane 5(G5 MLP era comic)
-Survived a blast from Starlight Glimmer
-Basically can solve any problem in Equestria
Feats(Speed):
-Outsped Princess Luna
-Faster than Unicorn Magic
-Nonchantly reacted to the Elements of Harmony
-Faster than Rainbow dash
-Faster than the 5 alicorns, Storm King, Mane 6, Pillars of Equestria of old, New Mane 6, Mean 6, and the Mane 5(G5 MLP era comic)
-Discord went to the Horsehead Nebula and back in 30 days
Stats(Strength and Durability):
-Scaling above pretty much everyone
>Discord himself is basically the most powerful being in his universe and he could've solve all the problems in Equestria if he wanted to. Let's go over how powerful Alicorns are starting with Princess Luna, who's pretty much in charge of the Dream Realm. The Dream Realm isn't just some place in your head, it's a whole universe of it's own
>According this comic, within every dream is a hallway that leads to infinite futures based on someone's decision making which is a Multiverse Level feat. And this comic only depicts one of these hallways. She has made a shared dream in the past before:
https://youtu.be/4CE8luJbVB4
>This is pretty her limit since she's using all of her power just to hold up the shared dream of all Ponyville, this is her full limit. Just so you
>The question is, how many ponies are there in Ponyville? According to some people the population of Ponyville is 450 which is 450 hallways to work with. Using Multipliers from the last Battle Match.
>450 x 5 x 6 x 9 x 6 x 6 x 6 x 6 x 5 x 7 = 5511240000 hallways
>And Celestia performed a similar feat with all of Equestria which has an estimated population count of 6,486,517 ponies and since that feat drained her energy, this has to be her limit as well.
>6,486,517 x 5 x 6 x 9 x 6 x 6 x 6 x 6 x 5 x 7 = 79,441,671,000,000 hallways
Final Verdict: Multiverse Level
Stats(Speed):
-His incredible speed feat
>According to this:
>He was able to move so fast that he was going at immeasurable speeds, this is his fastest speed feat that he has done himself.
Final Verdict: Immeasurable
Weaknesses:
-If he isn't around anything chaotic or feels normal rather than strange, he will fade out of existence, preventing him from using his own powers.
-Vulnerable to other magical characters or attacks.
>Had been turned to stone twice by the Elements of Harmony
>Had his powers drained by Tirek
-Tends to be overconfident and sometimes greedy.
-Sometimes suffers from Plot Induced Stupidity (PIS) where he doesn't teleport out of the way when being attacked or when his plans fail, or even defending himself.
-Generally avoids combat, limiting his combat experience.
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Bill Cipher
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Backstory: In the town of Gravity Falls there's a lot of weird and supernatural stuff like Gnomes that spew out rainbows, Multi-Bears, and Unicorns. But the most dangerous and destructive being of all time is Bill Cipher himself. From the 2nd dimension that he burned up himself out of boredom 1 trillion years ago, he soon conquered and terrorized the Nightmare Realm. He wants to claim another universe which is our universe and found a scientist named Stanford Pines and he soon manipulate him into doing his bidding and make a portal to our world and make it his. It took Bill several years and one Aw Jeez later. He soon got his wish and he unleashed Weirdmagaddon in Gravity Falls.
Background:
-Real Name: His real name evaporate one with an expression of horror and ecstasy on their face
-Age: 1,000,000,000,000 years old
-Homeworld: Nightmare Realm
-Possesssed George Washington, Stanley Kubrick, and Alex Hirsch
-Wants you to buy Gold and Cryptocurrency
-THE AUTHOR OF EVERYTHING IN THIS STUPID WATTPAD ACCOUNT
-LIKES TO MAKE SCARLET WITCH HIS WIFE
-CREATED NO NUT NOVEMBER JUST TO MESS WITH HUMANS
-GOT INSIDE JOB CANCELED BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT ANYONE TO BE TOO DEEP IN IT
Freelancer: "Out of my head Cipher."
Bill: *pops out of Freelancer's head*"Oh come on, can't you take a joke? Besides, didn't I already beat this clown?"
Freelancer: "I don't remember making a deal with you. Also, most of their information might be inaccurate sometimes, they either get it right or get it wrong."
Bill: "Whatever I'll just come back to life when-"
Freelancer: "Axolotl resurrect you? That's outside help dude, no outside help allowed."
Bill: "What!?"
Powers:
-Deals
-Shapeshifting
-Regeneration
-Telekinesis
-Duplication
-Clairvoyance
-Laser Beams
-Pyrokinesis
-Electrokinesis
-Petrification
-Force Fields
-Control over time, space, matter, gravity
-Phasing
-Soul Manipulation
-Quantum Uncertainty
-Reality Warping
Bill: "Come on make an exception I'm begging you!"
Freelancer: "Nope sorry."
Bill: "Oh come on!"
Freelancer: "The great Bill Cipher begging me to make an exception, look how the mighty has fallen."
Feats(Strength and Durability):
-Killed off the Time Baby and the Time Paradox Avoidance Enforcement Squadron
-The rift he made will destroyed the fabric of existence
-Stated to have Infinite Power
-Created the Mabelland Pocket Dimension
Feats(Speed):
-Crossed half of Gravity Falls in seconds
-Can travel to a galaxy
-Can achieve a similar speed to a galaxy sized Stanford Pines
Stats(Strength and Durability):
-One shooting Time Baby and his squadron
>Vaporizing Time Baby who weighs 9 trillion tons by the way should require 10 Teratons
>But he also killed off the time officers except for 1 guy
>Since this is a squadron which is 500 people and it takes 4638.75 J/cc to vaporize one
>Humans are 62,000 cubic centimeters
>62,000 x 4638.75 = 287602500 joules
>287602500 x 500 = 34 tons which is City Block Level
-Physical form power and the Rift
>According to Time Baby:
https://youtu.be/lx2XvcvqzzU
>The rift Bill made will destroy the very fabric of existence, not only this implies to just the universe he's in but also 9000 dimensions and the rest of the multiverse of not just Gravity Falls but also the multiverse of Rick and Morty which includes things like the Meta Reality and pocket dimensions like Froopyland, even universes like the Demon Realm from Owl House and Amphibia from Amphibia
>This is Multiverse Level at best
Final Verdict: Multiverse Level
Stats(Speed):
-Flying to a galaxy
https://youtu.be/IDVeAj6qgGw
>Bill Cipher flew to a galaxy in a matter of seconds which is 132.37 Billion times FTL
-Scaling to a galaxy sized Stanford
>Since Stanford himself would have gotten this power given to Bill, he would be 24.5 Trillions times FTL
Final Verdict: MTFL+
Weaknesses:
-Can be erased.
>While within the mindscape, Bill exists as nothing more than a thought in one's head and can be destroyed if the person is affected by something that induces memory loss (like from the memory-gun) or possibly brain death.
-Certain forms of magic can suppress and contain Bill's power.
>His powers are limited due to a magical barrier covering Gravity Falls. Bill claims that he will obtain infinite power if he could break out of the barrier; but he was unsuccessful in doing so.
>Could be sent back to his dimension if the Cipher Zodiac ritual is used on him.
?Magical barriers can block his attacks.
-Takes some time to regenerate
>His eye is a weak spot, as it takes a while for it to regenerate compared to the rest of his body.
*Not fully used to his corporeal body due to the disadvantage of experiencing pain, having been attacked in the eye a few times.
-While he knows 'lots of things' he technically doesn't know everything.
>Ford was able to hide information about the barrier in Gravity Falls because Bill doesn't have the ability to read or enter minds by force; only if the victim allows it.
>Through being tricked into entering Grunkle Stan's mind, it is implied that Bill's nigh-omniscience can be outsmarted with a certain plan, such as trapping Bill inside the mind of a duplicate of his opponent.
-Can be disoriented by synchronized music.
-Was defeated by identical twins Ford and Stan tricking him through swapping clothes.
-His ego is the greatest character flaw, underestimating his enemies and ceasing to be as a consequence.
-Prone to rageful outbursts if he feels threatened or if his plans are sabotaged.
Bill: "Great....."
Discord: "Looks like I might take your win on this one Bill."
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Battle
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In the city of Canterlot, where nothing but distorted chaos remains. Weirdmageddon has been unleashed, with several demons terrorizing their new playground.
Up in a giant black pyramid lies the perpetrator of this apocalypse: Bill Cipher, who is seen sitting on his throne made of the petrified residents of Canterlot, with Princess Celestia and Luna each respectively transmuted into shiny gold and purple idols on each armrest. He proceeds to turn a poor male pony into a toy, then into stone, and telekinetically places him on the throne.
Bill: BOY, HEHEH... PASTING ALL THIS BOOTLEG MERCHANDISE TOGETHER SURE TOOK A LOTTA GLUE.
The camera pans up to reveal that the Mane Six have been turned into banners, having failed to stop Bill.
Bill: GOOD THING YOUR FRIENDS MAKE THEIR OWN.
The person Bill is speaking to, Discord, can be seen flying within the banners of the Mane Six. He stops at Fluttershy's banner, looking upset at the condition of his one true best friend. As he exits the banner and back into reality, Discord holds and pats Fluttershy's banner in lament.
Discord: Uh, friends of a friend. Ah... But there's an idea!
His mood then abruptly changes as he teleports to the steps to Bill and starts parodying Twilight's ending monologues by telepathically reading and writing a message on a scroll as he dons a chef's outfit and summons a flaming cream pie.
Discord: (telepathically) Dear Princess Celestia, today Bill Cipher learned an important lesson... about friendship.
Bill is utterly disgusted by Discord's words and almost throws up from his eye from the sappy words as he turns green.
Bill: UGH, GAG!
Discord takes the opportunity to throw his flaming pie right at Bill's eye, destroying it and his left hand in an explosion.
Bill: OW! MY EYE!
The now frustrated Bill quickly regenerates his lost body parts, including his now-bloodshot eye, and wipes himself off as he summons a giant arm behind him. It then slams onto Discord, who had many more pies ready to throw, making an imprint of him pop out of the hand. Discord is sent flying out of Bill's Fearamid, and Bill himself angrily follows. However, as he is searching for Discord, he notices several Canterlot structures being turned into colossal desserts.
Bill: HUH?
He looks around to see that Discord is responsible for this, who throws the confectionaries at him. Bill dodges an ice cream cone and cake, but gets hit square in the face by a scoop of mint ice cream, bringing both him and it to the ground. This is followed by a carrot cake, muffins, another ice cream cone, a scoop of strawberry ice cream, whipped cream, and a cherry on top of him with the sound of a bell dinging. Discord is seen enjoying his own more reasonably-sized sweets as he taunts his opponent with a service bell in his hand.
Discord: Enjoy your just desserts!
An explosion from the stack of sweets then occurs, Bill emerging and smacking two drums and a cymbal from a drum set. Reality then briefly distorts as a laughing Bill levitates up to Discord. Things get wacky as Bill begins rapidly rotating the world around himself, causing buildings, ponies, henchmaniacs, and various objects to fly everywhere while he fires lasers at Discord. Bill soon avoids an anvil from Discord from above before shooting another laser down at him, laughing with enjoyment over the battle.
Bill: WHAT ARE YOU DOING, MAN? COME ON!
Bill suddenly stops rotating the world, leaving it upside-down. He looks around for his opponent, unaware that a gigantic Discord is behind him. The dream demon is then magically turned into a Dorito before the draconequus chomps, chews, and swallows. He gives a small food review to the viewer as he wipes his mouth.
Discord: Egh, a tad Euclidean for my tastes.
His head then suddenly explodes in confetti thanks to a laughing Bill, restored to normal. However, Discord quickly reappears back next to him by coming out of a string in reality, mockingly laughing as he does so, surprising Bill.
Discord: Ohohoho... ha.
Angered, Bill tackles Discord and punches him repeatedly with multiple arms, causing the two to enter a Weirdness Bubble. Inside it, the animation switches to a claymation-styled dimension where Bill strangles Discord before the latter pushes him off, knocking aside two guns, and retorts by shapeshifting into a giant monster with a long tongue. But then the animation distorts yet again to a 1930s cartoon-esque medium with dancing flowers in the background, where Discord grabs a resisting Bill and playfully gives him a noogie on his head.
Reality distorts once more for the two combatants to find themselves in a hand-puppet-styled scene, with Bill continuing to punch Discord.
Off-screen voice: Time out!
Children's cheers are heard from the camera, which leaves Bill and Discord to stop fighting and greet the viewers before returning to their playful conflict. Bill gains distance and shoots a laser (portrayed as silly string) at Discord, causing the children watching to laugh at the latter's humiliating appearance. After he shakes it off, Discord makes vomiting noises, only for a real hand to emerge from his puppet mouth, much to the screaming children's horror. The hand snaps its fingers, and a purple-white light covers the screen.
Finally returning to sprite animation, Bill and Discord emerge from a portal back in Canterlot. However, it is noticeably different, lacking any Weirdness Bubbles, being right-side up, and the interdimensional rift now blue instead of red.
Bill: TELL JEAN-LUC HIS SHOW IS WORSE THAN CODE OF HONOR!
Bill kicks Discord away a distance before stretching his arm to the left side of the screen, which suddenly grabs Discord from behind and squeezes him, leaving a squeaky party noise coming from his frilling tongue. After quickly recovering, Discord, in a more serious manner then talks down on Bill.
Discord: You are not qualified to work with the fourth wall!
Discord then does Bill's prior action, grabbing and squeezing him in return, his eye nearly bulging out and making a rubber chicken noise. The two then literally butt heads together, but the camera zooms out to show both combatants, now much larger, clashing each others' fists with bruised clones of their foe. They briefly stop to look at each other, before tossing the clones away in boredom. Discord, taking notice that they have not gotten anywhere, makes a request to his opponent for a different approach.
Discord: This stalemate is getting dull... How about a different game?
He summons a few dice of varying surfaces to reinforce his question.
Bill: SURE. I LOVE CHECKERS!
Bill raises his hands, and the slight moment of peace is suddenly interrupted by Discord getting crushed from above by, ironically, a giant knight chess piece.
Bill: GOOO~ FISH!
He tosses away the chess piece with his telekinesis, revealing a smear on the ground. From it, the carefree Discord emerges as a spirit, making silly ghost noises as he enters Bill's mind.
Discord: BOOO~!
In his mindscape, Discord continues to laugh as Bill is angered over his opponent trying his own trick on him.
Bill: YOU'RE MESSING WITH MY MIND?! OH, THIS IS MY SHTICK, YOU HACK!
The mindscape is then suddenly set alit with blue flames as Discord talks him down.
Discord: We may be evenly matched, Bill, but I've seen your show, my two-dimensional nuisance.
Discord, still as a spirit, emerges from the fire and claims his prediction on Bill.
Discord: And I know how you die...!
Bill: OHH.
Bill turns red, shapeshifting into a larger form to try to attack and grab Discord.
Bill: YOU THINK WE'RE EQUALS. THAT YOU'RE SAFE IN HERE, YOU LOW-EFFORT CLOWN?!
As Bill shoots an eye laser at him, Discord avoids it and slashes a chunk off of him with a larger hand, flipping him the bird as he flies away. Bill begins to uncontrollably distort before stopping, his missing chunk restored, and declaring to Discord...
Bill: I'M AN ALL-SEEING GOD!!!
In the real world, Bill grows gargantuan in size and turns three-dimensional. He uses his left hand to reach into and break his own eye, now made of stained glass, to enter his mindscape. Discord notices this and attempts to flee, only for Bill to punch him into his physical self's hand, which locks Discord into place with a barrier and lock before it pulls him back to the real world. As Bill's now-broken eye leaks a putrid black substance, he begins burning Discord's spirit with blue flames, causing the spirit of chaos to lament over his loss... and reveal his true victory.
Discord: Well... Heheheh... heh... It was worth a try... But still! Hehehe, I'm surprised. You don't recognize... your old home.
Reality suddenly shatters around Bill, revealing that the "Canterlot" they were in was just an illusion and that Discord had actually brought them both to the Nightmare Realm after their "reality trip", leaving Bill in shock and horror.
Bill: NO. NO!!
As Bill freaks out, he hears a perturbed female voice from behind him.
???: Discord?
Bill turns and looks through the interdimensional rift, and sees that Equestria and the Mane Six have been fully returned to normal, with Fluttershy expressing sad worry over Discord's lack of presence. The note he wrote at the beginning of the fight is left at her hooves.
Fluttershy: (worried) Discord?
Bill: NO. NO! NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NOOOOOOO!!!
Bill tries to fly towards and enter the rift, but falls short of it collapsing in on itself, leaving him trapped in the Nightmare Realm once more. Satisfied with having saved his friends and his world, Discord lets out a distorted laugh over his adversary's true loss.
Discord: Oh-ho, Bill. AHAHAHAHAAAAA!
The infuriated and omnicidal Bill glares at his adversary one last time with black-eyed murderous intent, crushing Discord's spirit with his hand and leaving his mocking laugh to echo throughout the realm, clenching his eye shut in rage after attaining his Pyrrhic victory. As things start to grow silent, Bill completely loses his composure. He transforms into a twisted red abomination, screeching in three-dimensional rage and denial over being back at square one. After a moment, he calms down and morphs back to normal, the backdrop turning from blue to blood red and the Weirdness Bubbles having caught on fire.
Bill: AHH, NO BIG DEAL. I'VE DONE THIS ONCE ALREADY...
With a disturbing drone sound, Bill slowly looks towards the camera before suddenly dashing towards and grabbing it, holding blue flames in his free hand and his eye turning blue as he makes an offer to the viewer.
Bill: WANNA MAKE A DEAL?!
We then see Bill get hit with fire extinguisher foam in the face as he then shakes it off and then sees that Discord is still alive and got back his physical body.
Bill: "What!?"
Discord: *laughing maniacally like in his debut appearance in MLP*"You should've seen yourself. Destroy me in your own home, how predictable."
Bill: "I JUST DESTROYED YOU!!! YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD!!!!"
Discord: "Just because I'm down, doesn't mean I'm out. You think I'm trapped in here with you? You're trapped in here with me!"
We then see Discord's eyes glow red in rage and then he snaps his fingers and we see the Nightmare Realm falling apart and Bill feels himself getting destroyed by Discord.
Discord: "You may be a smart cookie, but you made one mistake. You hurt my Fluttershy."
Bill: "You're making a mistake! You're making a mistake! I'll give you anything!"*Eye shows a picture of a dollar sign, a star, a pot of gold and a Universe*"Money! Fame! Riches! Infinite power! Your own galaxy! Please!"*Bends and melts*"No! What's happening to me?!"
We then see Bill screaming in pain while transforming into distorted forms of himself until he goes into a black form with a red cycloptic eye and looks at Discord with rage.
Bill: "DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSCOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRD!!!!!!!!"
We then see Discord drinks a cup of chocolate milk and only the glass was being drinked by him and not the milk as we see him throw it at Bill's eye as it then blows up along with Bill as we see all of the Nightmare Realm fall to pieces like in Final Fantasy 7 when Sepheroth was using his Supernova move. Meanwhile in Equestra, we see a crack in reality and we see Discord's arms burst out of the crack and then we see him burst out the crack like how the Mane 6 broke him out of his stone prison and we see Discord stretching out his body.
Discord: "Well the next time I destroy a universe, I should make sure I won't be in the middle of its destruction."
Fluttershy: "Discord!"*hugs him*"You're okay!"
Discord: "Of course I am."
Pinkie: "Wait a second, didn't the Death Battle say that Bill would beat you and not you beat him?"
Discord: "Well they didn't do their homework right. Unlike them, Freelancer does his homework with accurate information. The Nightmare realm is practically a world of chaos, so dying in there is like taking a 15 minute break."
Twilight: "How did you beat Bill in his own realm?"
Discord: "It's a different realm of chaos, he's trapped in there with me."
Applejack: "So you got stronger and stronger cause it's where all kinds of chaos happens?"
Discord: "How do you think I broke out of my stone prison?"
Sometime later, in Celestia's castle, we see Celestia reading the letter from Discord.
Celestia: *reading the letter*"Dear Princess Celestia, today Bill Cipher learned a valuable lesson about friendship. While I don't mind having some chaos in Equestria, there are some lines that even I don't ever cross and Bill crossed all of them. What Bill never understands is that if Bill calls the monsters of the Nightmare Realm his friends, then he should treat them better and not use them for his own gain. And if I wasn't reformed then Bill would have his way with Equestria by now, that is why I chose to fight Bill Cipher because he hurt my friend Fluttershy and her friends, who are my friends by default. Chaos Magic can let you do anything you want but sometimes friendship is better than any form of magic. Cause what's the point of having phenomenal cosmic power if you don't have friends to count on you. Your faithful Lord of Chaos, Discord. PS: Lay off the cake, you have let yourself go quite a bit and a lot of it is going to your thighs."
Celestia then looks at herself in the mirror and sees that Discord is right.
Celestia: "Great..."
KO
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Results
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Discord:
+Physical regeneration makes him hard to kill
+Far more creative with his abilities
+Far stronger
>Actually he can get stronger and stronger the more chaos there is
+Can do mind manipulation with no restrictions
+Can actually harm Bill when he's in his physical form
+Can actually learn form his mistakes
=Has equivalents or counters to most abilities
-Lacks regeneration feats beyond physical damage
-Could not debilitate Bill by draining his powers via Bewitching Bell
Bill Cipher:
+ Can regenerate from all physical & some spiritual damage
+ More bloodthirsty and ruthless
=Has equivalents or counters to most abilities
-Weaker
-His chaos just makes Discord stronger
-Follows strict rules with his powers while Discord doesn't have a clear set of rules
-Even though he may have infinite power, he can't break out of the barrier around Gravity Falls
-Most of his feats are hypothetical at best
>Even if they are something that Bill can do, he doesn't have the power or speed to keep up with Discord
-He needs outside help to be resurrected while Discord will comeback cause there will always be chaos
>If this fight was taken place in either in the events of Weirdmagaddon or in the Nightmare Realm and Discord dies. He can just get back up like it was nothing.
Next: Sunset Shimmer vs. Starlight Glimmer
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Trivia
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Comparisons:
-Both of them are beings of pure chaos
-Both of them got beaten by estranged siblings
-Both of them have invaded a small town
-Both of them are apocalyptic goof balls
-Both of them have tons of crossovers
Math and Chapter:
-I redid Discord's calculations
-I did let the franchises of Amphibia, Rick and Morty, and Owl House be part of a statement for Bill's durability statement of the destruction of the very fabric of existence cause
>But I did not add Marvel to the stats cause the time the Pines family went into the Marvel verse through a comic book, not the actual Marvel universe
-RathsBone96 wanted me to do a remake of this fight so that he would see my opinion about it
Participated Franchises:
-My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
-Gravity Falls
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